Hello,
My name is E I live in TN. I have looked at a lot of Mr. Pippenger’s lessons on DVD. There is some confusion among those of us who have watched them. Not so much on the content of the lessons but as to their importance.
I thought it would be best to send in a few questions for Mr. Pippenger to answer, that way it would clear up any confusion, and also if there are some of us who are misrepresenting these lessons we could stand corrected.
We have different opinions on some things and would appreciate it if we could get some answers from him. This would help to clarify some things. Thank you for your help. I know it is hard to keep answers to a simple yes or no but if that is possible on some of the questions it would help.
Here are a few questions we would like to submit:
- Are the timelines that Mr. Pippenger draws, showing a link between events of the past and end time events, simple a theory subject to error, or is it to be represented as flawless facts?
- Do these lessons give us an idea as to who the one hundred and forty-four thousand will be? Not just generally but specifically?
- Do these lessons give us an idea when probation will close?
- Do these lessons tell us we need to be teaching from the 1843 chart to give the last messages to the world?
- Do these lessons give great importance to the interpretation of the “daily” of Daniel, chapter 8?
- Do these lessons teach that the 2520 is of so great importance that those who refuse to learn it, or teach it are turning from new light that God is opening up to us at this time?
- Are these series of lessons the unsealing of the seven thunders just before probation closes?
- Are there life and death consequences to accepting or rejecting these lessons?
Thank you so much. We look forward to your reply. E.
Response
Brother E,
- The time lines are biblical facts. How I apply them, is subject to my human limitations. You will be held accountable to test how I apply the lines, but they are established by the testimony of more than three, and biblical truth is established by two or three witnesses. They are therefore established by God and you and I are held accountable how we relate to the truths connected with them.
- The lines identify the reformation that occurs when the 144,000 are raised up and they will therefore be part of the unfolding prophetic message that awakens and prepares the 144,000. In this sense they identify part of the prophetic message that is understood and proclaimed by the 144,000. The message concerning these lines therefore identifies two groups in Adventism, one that rejects the implications and another that responds to them. Those that respond are the ones that are striving to be among the 144,000 and “follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth” as He guides them through His unfolding prophetic Word.
- They identify that probation is now closing, for they identify that Christ is now finishing His work in the Most Holy Place.
- These lessons identify that God is now leading His willing people back to the foundations of Adventism. It is there that they must go, in order to have the basis for understanding and proclaiming the last warning message for the world. That being said, the return to the foundations and the 1843 & 1850 Charts are a message for Adventism that arrives just before the third angel’s message is carried to God’s other children that are now outside Adventism.
- The correct understanding of the “daily” in the book of Daniel is represented on both Charts, both of which have been endorsed by Inspiration. To return to the foundations of Adventism as represented on the Charts includes returning to the correct pioneer understanding of the “daily.”
- The 2520 is in the same category as the “daily” just mentioned in point 5. When is it that God’s people ever have spiritual authority to turn from biblical truth?
- The unsealing of the seven thunders includes these lessons, but there is more to the seven thunders than simply the lines.
- What truth can we reject and not place ourselves outside of God’s Will? The 144,000 follow Christ everywhere He leads them, and you are asking if we can reject certain truths? I have been very direct, but not very longwinded, for I sense that your questions were being asked by someone that didn’t really want to understand. Perhaps I am wrong in that regard, I mean no hard feelings, but more often than not these type of questions, in the fashion you set them forth gives witness to someone that is trying to find ‘hooks to hang doubts on’, or points that can be attacked. If I am incorrect please forgive me. In any case, I stand by the answers and hope they help. Jeff Pippenger.
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